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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2011, 09:50:41 PM »
Hi all,
   
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Is it possible to hazard any guess as to what makes error message "C++ Compiler Error" appear?
    Obviously ERRORS!. But why ask such a rudimentary question rhetorically? Id think this " I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG" and devils advocate your chosen methods that lead to these errors and perhaps you will solve them yourself.
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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 10:12:36 PM »
Thanks Oldos
My chosen method was to send a QB64 prog to my friend Delmer in exactly the same way "attachment" that has worked many times before to him using Gmail
The only evidence I have is his reply which was:

"I have tried to get your program to work, without success.   QB64 says "C++ Compiler Error" without saying WHAT is wrong.   I've gone through it line by line, changing things that look suspect, and no luck".

I have advised him to rem out each line one by one, starting with all the IFs, until he DOES get an error message that means something. Then tell me and I will TRY yo help.
Then, with your help, I asked him what version of QB64 he is on.

Oldos, is there something that makes Aussies not like rhetorical questions?
I have always found it more polite to say "Would you please hazard a guess?" than to say "Please tell me"

As you know I like finding out why myself and never ask unless I need help.
Thus it is great to know my friends at QB64 are always willing to help :)

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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2011, 10:12:57 PM »
You need to update this forum software AND turn off the font size option.

Some people apparently can't be trusted with their own idiocy.

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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2011, 10:32:34 PM »
Hi all,
    In your reply is the answer. You agree that your question is rhetorical so why ask in that fashion? You have sent someone a working copy of source code. That end user replies to you that it does not work for him. The assumptions made are that his version of QB64 is compatible to yours. One answer is that he install the same version of QB64 that you use and test on that. Once the foundations are the same the obvious questions to ask will become apparent.
    You question should NOT be asked until he confirms this approach and informs you of the differences making the question pertinent rather than abstract. Im not a mind reader and am puzzled by what it is that you exactly mean before you attempt to use words to describe it. Its a bit like that "lost in translation" idea.
    Has your friend had any other of your programs show the same symptoms or is this the first program after you both have had changes to your QB64 installations, that this has occurred to? Have you personally tested your program on both his version and your version of QB64? etc.
    If in fact you and your friend share the same version and both are correctly setup installations then there is a problem. This needs to be confirmed before we should attempt to problem solve. As yet you have not indicated these answers.
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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2011, 10:50:04 PM »
Oldos, My friend Delmer has been attracted to QB64 because he likes receiving each week progs writ in qb64 from me as gmail attachments which he sends on to his friends.
All work fine EXCEPT this one.
Our weekly exchanges of programs have been in QB64 for 6 months now - and before that for 20 years in QB45. Thus I want to help him, rather than have him go back to qb45 thinking qb64 unreliable.
 
There is no way I can tell you what version of QB64 he is today on.
They are all compatible.

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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2011, 10:55:00 PM »
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"With programming, you can do anything!" But not with qb64?

That's the REAL answer! This guy is a BUFFOON and comes here just to jerk you guys off!

« Last Edit: September 29, 2011, 06:29:17 PM by Clippy »
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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2011, 11:08:39 PM »
Hi all,
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There is no way I can tell you what version of QB64 he is today on.
    They are NOT!
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They are all compatible.
    Each new version fixes old bugs.
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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2011, 05:16:47 AM »
You should tell your friend to run the .bat file that shows the errors when you get a c++ compilation error. You can send it to him. It tells you what the error is and on what line.

Here's the thread for the .bat file
Venture - New Prototype, QB64 Editor v1.95b (linux compatible, if you compile the source).

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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2011, 05:48:23 AM »
Thanks Cy, perhaps the most helpful reply yet.
I certainly want to show my US group that QB64 is full of friends rather than those who say "fix it yourself"
« Last Edit: September 29, 2011, 06:03:28 AM by Mrwhy »

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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2011, 04:03:32 PM »
Yeah, I'm with you on that! I suppose you don't dare to ask them to come over to our community? It would be easier to help them if they were here and we could talk to them personally. Or perhaps on the QB64 lessons site.
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Re: Please bring your friends then GO AWAY!
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2011, 06:27:46 PM »
Well, they will get more HELP HERE than Mr Why will EVER offer ANYBODY ANYWHERE!

Cy, I am SUPRISED that you would say that after TWO THREADS posted by the SAME ASSHOLE disparaging QB64:

This one: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?

And this: "With programming, you can do anything!" But not with qb64?


WHAT ON EARTH DOES THAT KINDA SHIT DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY? >:(
« Last Edit: September 30, 2011, 06:17:37 AM by Clippy »
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Re: Do bugs creep in when we email QB64 progs to our friends?
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2011, 11:23:59 PM »
Quote from: Cyperium on September 29, 2011, 04:03:32 PM
Yeah, I'm with you on that! I suppose you don't dare to ask them to come over to our community? It would be easier to help them if they were here and we could talk to them personally. Or perhaps on the QB64 lessons site.

Cyperium, Yes indeed! I am working on it!
They all use qb45 and have done for years!
It is like planting a garden and waiting for the seeds to grow.
You tell them about qb64. Free downloads and all that.
You enthuse about SNDRAW and how much faster QB64 is
You forget to mention "no interpreter yet"
You get them to try downloading it (which took 4 bashes with the first friend I tried)
You emphasise that all their QB45 progs will run on it.
That they can develop their progs in qb45 and then RUN them in QB64 and then add any advanced features that are relevant.

Maybe some of them have already contributed to the forum, but not said anything about it to me about how they found that experience.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2011, 04:29:09 AM by Mrwhy »

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