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Re: Site rating
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2013, 11:20:28 AM »
Very interesting Oldos
There seem to be contrasting types of people
Some try to grasp all the details first (all the coding tricks), then apply them
I have never been able to do that
In my case I have an application I want to simulate using QB64
I have my own 50 year backlog of tasks I have simulated in qbasics. This began as trial and error but by now is a bit more structured.
What I would greatly value from this forum is the chance to increase in scope and width this list of "how to simulate what" using QB64.
Such as a candle flame.
I think in any such one case all it takes is someone to look up "flame" in our "search" and list it under "f".
Similarly he who seeks round circles not ellipses would find some hope under "r" for round!
At present he who attempts this can find nowhere on our site to put his results

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Re: Site rating
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2013, 11:30:55 AM »
Hi all,
   
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Some try to grasp all the details first (all the coding tricks), then apply them
There are very few coding tricks , mostly they are understandings.
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I think in any such one case all it takes is someone to look up "flame" in our "search" and list it under "f".
Similarly he who seeks round circles not ellipses would find some hope under "r" for round!
    In an ideal world thats probably how it would be. Different authors use different syntax to describe there work and your interpretation of "correct" searching parameters may not work. One way that will work is to manually search through posts page by page and decide for yourself if it fits into your parameters. I dont know of any sites that offer the level of searching that you desire other than google. Even then you have to sort out hundreds of links that arent relevant. Thats just the way it is , unless you code a newer search engine that can discern the meanings you type in as your parameters and understand your context to look for.
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Re: Site rating
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2013, 11:42:35 AM »
It is not quite as difficult as you think, Oldos.
He who wants to draw a flame on screen looks under "f"
If his word is not flame, he will be lucky if he finds it under "f".
All we seek, as always, is how to BEGIN.
Here we begin by helping those who want a flame.
At least then we have started and helped someone!
At present there is no help at all (except to post and ask others to kindly help ;D)


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Re: Site rating
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2013, 11:47:58 AM »
Hi all,
   
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It is not quite as difficult as you think, Oldos.
Well you havent found it onsite. I did a quick google search with this heading: "simulate a flame mathematically" and got pages of links to other sites.
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Re: Site rating
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2013, 11:58:32 AM »
Many thanks Oldos
Yes, qb64 is just one site that I consult.
It is best only when I happen to know the keywords.

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Re: Site rating
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2013, 03:24:35 PM »
OlDosLover & Mrwhy,

I just did a site (ours) search for just the word "flame." Wouldn't
you think that out of the few thousand topics and 10's of
thousands of replies, that it ought to show up more than in 4
replies. And that's only in this "Site rating" topic.

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Re: Site rating
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2013, 05:43:54 PM »

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I just did a site (ours) search for just the word "flame." 
  Actually there are a lot of references,..


FLAME
 If you are currently in a certain topic/or category, the search only shows, what is in that topic (thread), What you need to do, is exit the topic/category, to  "QB64 community", then do the search from there, it will then show the results, for all the topics, and categories that contain posts with that word.
  Search engines, are limited, but they are very useful, it dose take getting familiar with , them,
 If you just use a letter, the one here at qb64 (SMF), will reject it, it must be more then 2 letters, the thing is one letter, would return 1,000,000 s of results,..  Google will give a lot of results, with even just one letter, but chances of any of them being usefull, is very slim. The main thing with useing a search program, is to try to be specific, and use specific word groups,.. IE: on google, "flame" would still get 1,000,s of results,..  you would need to be more specific,.. "how to draw a flame",
 "animated flames", depending on what you want,.."starting flames" would probabley get a lot on starting fires, or also, "flame" has been used as a term on the internet, related to when people, try to start trouble,..  "draw a flame mathmatically " or "draw a flame with math"  spelling is important, but I don't know the correct spelling, for mathmaticaly , sometimes "google" will suggest different spellings,  I would look for "animated flames", if I want to get one that actually flickers,...
 Doing one with qb64 would be easy, but tedious,  you could draw several frames, of "flames" bigger and littler, etc, put them on a "sprite sheet",.. and then use the code to run the "animation",..
 To do that with math, or the DRAW command, would be possible, I am sure, the wiki would say how, to use the DRAW command, also you could do it with DATA files,.. too.
 As a matter of fact  THE-BOB, did a real neat one , with a fireplace as the background,..  I think it is in his tutoial, but it is qbasics, and qb4.5  I don't think I have ever tried compiling it with qb64, but I am sure it would.

 Ahh, one last note: Also, thank you fuffrabit, for editing the post.
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Re: Site rating
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2013, 06:18:52 PM »
And of course, simulated candle flames may not show up on any search engine because the original poster didn't use the term "flame".   They could call their sample, "burning candle", "wavering candle wick", "wind effect on a fire simulation", "candle vs draft", "lit wick"....  Or even "Check this out!"

The only way to make certain that a search returns what you're looking for is to set a group of keywords, and then require everyone to use those specific words.  "Burning candle" would be rejected, but "Simulation - Fire, candle" might pass and then everyone would be able to title tag properly so that searches could find the relevant information.

But who's going to create the keyword list?  Enforce it?  Make certain everyone abides by it?

All I know is its not a job for me.  ;)
http://bit.ly/TextImage -- Library of QB64 code to manipulate text and images, as a BM library.
http://bit.ly/Color32 -- A set of color CONST for use in 32 bit mode, as a BI library.

http://bit.ly/DataToDrive - A set of routines to quickly and easily get data to and from the disk.  BI and BM files

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Re: Site rating
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2013, 06:38:42 PM »
LINUXQB64gltester,

To be honest, I wasn't aware of that. No wonder I haven't been able to find
a lot of things. I did as you indicated and it came up with close to 50. Daahhh!!!

Thanks,

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Re: Site rating
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2013, 10:03:47 PM »
Hi all,
    That sort of "tip" should be in the FAQ , i think.
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Re: Site rating
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2013, 11:29:26 PM »
The above several replies are very interesting in they mention what matters yet manage to miss the important facts.
As Billbo so wisely points out "I just did a site (ours) search for just the word "flame." Wouldn't you think that out of the few thousand topics and 10's of thousands of replies, that it ought to show up more than in 4 replies. And that's only in this "Site rating" topic."

That is the problem in a nutshell: finding "the few" among the "tens of thousands"!
The needle we seek is an EXAMPLE of a flame program hidden in the haystack of irrelevant thread contributions.
To be positive, what we really need is a way to AUTOMATE the display onscreen of only the posts that DO CONTAIN
Code: [Select]
For THOSE are the posts that actually DO give examples of programs ???

Please help me by suggesting a way I could search all of our site yet see onscreen in turn only the posts that contain [code]. If I could do that within qb64 I'd have a go at making an index of example programs already posted here.